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Instruction from the expert, Miss Hilary Peet, physical education mistress, who plays netball for Lancashire and who is also a member of the County swimming team.
Source: Lancashire Life Magazine, November 1958

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Comments by June on 9th December 2019  

😂 Susan it was not a problem! He enjoyed teasing them as the term 'knickers', as you know, has feminine connotations, and boys being boys, they were, of course, protective of their masculinity! You mention boys. How many? I had three ... quite dissimilar but all very male!

Comments by James on 9th December 2019  

Danny,yes,I did wear shorts out of school for playing,but they were more casual shorts like football shorts.
Even though I was fourteen my mother kept me in shorts all the time and decided what would be more suitable for me to wear for different occasions.
I did feel slightly'ridiculous'wearing short trousers with a jacket and tie,as I considered I had outgrown my costume,but my mother liked the classic school boy look and thought that the jacket and tie complimented the outfit.

Comments by Danny on 8th December 2019  

James, I also wore shorts as school uniform till I was 14 and my mother would never listen when I told her I should start wearing long trousers for school before that age.
But somehow I never minded wearing shorts outside of school since we mostly spent our time playing outside activities where shorts were more comfortable.
Maybe it was because it felt ridiculous wearing school jacket and tie with shorts for school.
Did you also wear shorts outside of school and felt the same?

Comments by Susan on 7th December 2019  

June
Sorry l meant to address you June
My hubby refers to them as knickers too and how our boys hate that term - haha

Comments by Susan on 6th December 2019  

Fiona
My hubby refers to them as knickers too and how our boys hate that term - haha

Comments by James on 6th December 2019  

Danny & Andrea,when I was growing up and going through secondary school my parents kept me in short trousers and much to my annoyance they were frequently referred to as'short pants'as I believe that was also how the Americans refer to them.

Comments by Danny on 5th December 2019  

Andrea, I think the word knickerbockers referred to both male and female undergarments of the long type.
Which is probably why the other female posters have said that their husbands still refer to their own undergarment as knickers which may also distinguish between briefs and boxer shorts as Americans refer to them.
I remember those long undergarments worn by girls and women were called bloomers, which were still worn till the 50s or 60s.
To compound things further even more those short thin cotton or nylon outer shorts which were popular and worn by both boys and girls during the Summer months in the 70s and 80s were also called knickers. They were also often worn by boys as gym shorts for PE in some schools.
Not to mention the gym knickers worn by girls for PE which were not undergarments.
So this word has been abused, or used, to refer to different things. It is also used as a derogatory word, mostly by young girls, when they reply "knickers" to something you tell them. Much like what we males call "bullshit".

Comments by Stewart on 5th December 2019  

I only pop back to this site infrequently...and just seen a message o me from Anne, from way back in January. Yes, our schools do sound similar in their strict "no footwear" policy for all PE.
And yes, I, to remember cross country barefoot in the snow. We certainly didn't hang about!

Comments by Andrea on 3rd December 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

George,
The garment you describe is what we would call knickerbockers, which I guess became abbreviated to knickers over there.

With regard to boys and girls changing for PE in the same area, this still happened when my son was at Primary school, but only until they were about 8 or so. Years ago, when I was at Primary school, it continued right up to the end of Primary school (at age 11). We were never completely naked, just down to vest and pants (underwear) before putting on our PE kit.
I don't know if it's the same in the USA, but in most Primary schools over here, there are far more female staff than male.

Comments by June on 2nd December 2019  

In support of Fiona

Yes, my husband calls his undies knickers and it annoyed our sons when he used the term when referring to their underwear ... men and boys! Love them ... really :)

Comments by Fiona on 2nd December 2019  

Oh the joys of being two nations separated by a common language!

"Knickers" in UK English are female (generally) undergarments for the nether regions, otherwise known as pants, panties, underpants, briefs etc. That having been said, my partner often uses the term to refer to his own underwear.

Comments by George Spelvin on 2nd December 2019  spelvin545@gmail.com 

Martin, I realize I'm 6 years late, but I just finished reading your message of December 15, 2013.
I am very curious about Shears Green School.
You said that you had to "take ALL our clothes off and were only allowed to put on one item of clothing, cotton shorts for boys and PE knickers for the girls."

I notice that in some British schools, the boys and the girls undressed for phys ed class in the same room.
Was that true at Shears Green?

I suspect that this display of flesh was for the benefit of some of the teachers.
From the Facebook discussion, it seems that you had a couple of funny teachers.

And by the way, what ARE knickers anyway?
Here in the United States, they aren't an undergarment, but rather a corduroy garment extending past the knee, and usually worn with long socks.
Apparently, that's not what it means in your country.

Comments by Doctor J Wallace on 20th November 2019  

It was all boys in the class though a couple of the assistants were teen-age or young twenties girls. Each girl assistant took a group of 4 or 5 boys under her charge. Since there were usually about 15 to 20 boys taking lessons there would be 4 assistants with a group of boys in different parts of the pool.

What I wan't prepared for was the end of the swim. About 10 minutes before our swim time ended mothers and girls walked in and sat down to watch and wait for their sons to finish swimming. One girl was a girl I knew from church and I was embarrassed to have her see me naked when I got out of the pool.

When I walked by she said hi to me and smiled. A little later my friend's mother and two sisters walked in. His oldest sister who was close to my age look at me standing there and smiled also. By time the swim period ended there were probably 5 or 6 mothers and 8 or 9 girls, probably sisters watching. I was embarrassing to have walk by them naked on the way to the dressing room.
I went the whole week with my neighbor and had to swallow my pride and let girls I knew see me naked.

Sunday at church two girls who had seen me smiled and told me how much they enjoyed "seeing" me swim with the other boys. It was embarrassing but at the same time a touch exciting to know they had seen me naked.

I guess the difference was that they saw young boys being nude as cute and inoffensive in front of females, but older teen boys would have been seen as gross and improper in front of females.

None the less the girls same age or younger, or a bit older than the young boys saw it as exciting watching all those nude boys.

I was not on the swim teams but attended several meets as a spectator and could notice the young girls excitement at seeing so much boy nudity.

Rude comments were of course not allowed in front of the adult spectators and the girls would just whisper in each others ears, so it just went unnoticed.

Our elementary school had a roll call for the shower like high schools because our Principal was an ex korean-war veteran who insisted on strict military discipline for physical education, and I was at elementary school towards the end of the Vietnam war.

Comments by Danny on 19th November 2019  

Doctor Wallace, it is amusing to read that they made you swim nude for hygienic reasons while "the pool always had a layer of scum."
Did the teacher have any assistants to instruct and help the boys with their swimming lessons?

I am also curious like you to know if this was common in other elementary schools at the time. Have you done any research or found out anything about this custom in other schools?
From what I have read about it, it seems to have been common in many High Schools, but have not come across any that mention it done in elementary schools.

Comments by Doctor J Wallace on 18th November 2019  

Hello Danny,

We had swimming one day a week. We swam naked for hygienic reasons. The pool always had a layer of scum. The first person rarely wanted to dive in first to break it. We had to take a swimming test and the times I was in the pool we only swam laps until we were exhausted. Since you didn't wear a jock strap you could get hurt during the dive.

I guess I would liken it to having to drink out of the black water fountain instead of the white fountain, it was just something they had control over and they made you do it.

The teacher was an old lady named Miss Coyne, a sophomore English teacher. After the shower we would parade through the swimming pool to dry off. However, you still had to take a shower, line up naked on your number for roll call.

Comments by Danny on 17th November 2019  

Doctor J Wallace, you seem to be talking about American schools where this practice of nude swimming for boys seems to have been very common pre-70s from what I read.
In your case being an elementary school did you have female teachers supervising you during swim lessons or female instructors?
How did you boys feel about being made to swim naked?

It is very much like you said, it would not happen today.

Comments by Doctor J Wallace on 17th November 2019  

I am doing some personal research about the practice of swimming in the nude for swim class in public school. I was at Windermere Elementary in the early 70s and remember swimming without trunks -- the girls (in their own class) were supplied suits by the school, but the boys were not. How long was this done in Buffalo? I have read accounts that it was done at a few schools in the Buffalo area. Did they do this in middle and high school as well? (I left town right before the 6th grade, so only know that this was the practice at Windermere Elementary until I was in 5th grade -- 1973). How many people experienced this during their childhood? Was it all over Buffalo, or just at Windermere? When did they stop doing this, and was there a reason? Was any teacher ever criticized for anything inappropriate?

As an adult and parent now of children of school age, the thought of swimming nude for swim class today is unthinkable today, and most likely would be considered abusive. What were others' experiences with this in Buffalo? Is there anyone that attended Windermere elementary in the 70s that could shine some light on what the policy was when they attended?

Comments by Andrea on 14th November 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

Danny,
No, our school didn't have a pool, so our lessons were at a nearby municipal pool.
Possibly for that reason only the first two year groups at the school had swimming lessons.

From memory we had two lessons per week of indoor PE and one double period of outdoor games.

Comments by Danny on 14th November 2019  

Andrea, we didn't have swimming lessons at my school because we didn't have a swimming pool.
I thought that only posh schools had the luxury of their own swimming pool. :)

Did you have a pool at your school or did you take the swim lessons somewhere outside of your school?

As for showers, they were not compulsary and few boys bothered since our PE lessons were just an hour or so and nothing heavy or strenuous, more like playing around in the gym, although the PE kit of white t-shirt and white shorts were required
From what I remember we only had two PE lessons a week, maybe three. We also didn't have any competitive games like rugby or football or country runs like some posters describe here. Our school only bothered with the academic subjects.

Comments by Andrea on 13th November 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

Danny,

Yes showers were compulsory for us after PE and games lessons.

For swimming lessons, we had to wear navy blue one piece swimming costumes.

Did you have compulsory showers and what did you wear for swimming lessons?

Comments by Danny on 12th November 2019  

Andrea, did Girls Sec.schools also require girls to take compulsary showers after PE? Or was this just a boys school only requirement?

Same with nude swimming, I never or very rarely heard of girls required to be naked for swim classes, while it was common in many boys schools, even in some mixed schools where only boys had to be nude for swim class, although they had separate classes from girls.

Comments by Mr Dando on 5th November 2019  

It is time to ban PE in just vest and knickers!

http://www.gordonbrock.lewisham.sch.uk/school-uniform/

PE Kit
Children in Years 1-6 require a kit which they can change into for PE.

This kit should be labelled with your child's name and sent to school in a bag which can stay in class all half term.

Reception children have only indoor PE and this is done in knickers and vests.

Autumn / Spring Summer

Indoor shorts & short sleeved t-shirt shorts & short sleeves t-shirt

Outdoor tracksuit & velcro fastening trainers / plimsolls shorts, short sleeved t-shirt and velcro fastening trainers / plimsolls

Please ensure that all items brought into school are labelled so that if they are mislaid we are able to return them via your child's class.

Comments by James on 5th November 2019  

Danny,It was a particularly torrid time with the onset of puberty and we were also closely observed by our classmates showing the different pubertal development.
I do agree that the various stages of puberty is not consistent with a boy's age and I was totally hairless and smooth as a baby even though I was tall for my age.
I also found it difficult wearing short trousers at that age as my legs were exposed for all to see.

Comments by Danny on 5th November 2019  

From Mr.Dando's latest PE kit post

"A swimming costume and towel will be required by Y7"

Does this mean that swimming costumes were not required before Y7?

Are there any PE kits list that specify clearly that boys do not need costumes for swimming lessons?
I do remember seeing something to that effect where a school specified in its curriculum that boys do not wear costumes for swimming, probably from the 60s or 70s.

Comments by Andrea on 5th November 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

Danny,

Your observation is correct and the photo ties in with my memories of my classmates during our first year or so at secondary school, with girls growing at different rates, both in height and the effects of puberty.

A few of my classmates had started to develop before we left primary school; some were tall as well, but others remained quite short, but with noticeable breast development.
By contrast, some girls were still flat-chested well into the second year at secondary.

With regard to training bras, I can't comment on the era shown in the picture as I didn't start at secondary school until 1971. Back then what we called training bras were just scaled down versions of what our mothers wore, white with cups, hook and eye fasteners and adjustable shoulder straps.

So they didn't bear any resemblance to the various pull-on style of bras available in multiple colours available to pre-teens nowadays.

I seem to remember my mum saying she didn't start to wear bras until shortly before she left school, so I would say that the trend has been for successive generations to start wearing them at progressively earlier stages of development.

Comments by Chris G on 4th November 2019  

A fw days ago, Danny posted:

"Looking at the main picture with the girls in an assortment of different PE shorts it seems that back in the 50s they did not have the brand type shorts that kids wear today."

Perfectly true. In my early secondary school days, back in the 1950s, the only requirement for PE kit was that we had a white PE shirt/vest and white shorts, with no specification on style, fabric or which shop they were bought from. Brand logo stuff just didn't exist. Until topless PE was introduced, most of us just wore our underwear vests for PE, and I can remember my Mum actually making me a pair of shorts out of some white cotton fabric that she had left over from one of her dress-making projects. We did wonder whether it was perhps a little bit see-through, but the end result was quite acceptable and the workmanship was very good.

Comments by James on 4th November 2019  

Danny,we did have the 'branded'shorts at the secondary school that I attended,but we had to wear shorts that were identical,so we had to wear shorts that were the same color and style.We were not allowed to wear jogging pants or track suits so we used to freeze in the cold weather.
We also wore short trousers for our school uniform,but our sports shorts were very thin and brief so were not very warm.

Comments by Danny on 4th November 2019  

Andrea, about your comment in a previous post that some girls were still flat chested in Secondary school can be confirmed from the above picture.

It was the same with us boys in the first few years at secondary school with different stages of pubertal development and some were still smooth as babies while others were into puberty.
I was one of those who even had hair on my legs and was very conscious and shy about it, especially since we still wore uniform shorts till 14. I also had a small mustache at that age.

Another observation, as one can see from the picture, in both boys and girls height was no indication of pubertal development. The tallest girl in the picture is in fact flat chested and some of the shortest ones have quite developed breasts under their shirt.
It was the same with us boys concerning height and pubertal development. The tallest boy in our class didn't have a single hair on his body. :)

What I am curious about, since you also mention it, is if training bras existed at the time the above picture was taken, late 50s or so, or if it was a later invention.
From what I remember when growing up only normal bras existed and girls were usually not given bras to wear until quite developed.

Comments by Mr Dando on 3rd November 2019  

http://stonydean.bucks.sch.uk/uniform-order-form/

PE Kit:

All pupils require:

black shorts and/or plain black jogging pants,
white t-shirt (plain or with school logo*),
sports socks,
football boots and trainers.
Burgundy Stony Dean sweatshirt*

A swimming costume and towel will be required by Y7 and some older pupils for weekly

All pupils should bring a towel and expect to shower after PE.

Comments by Andrea on 3rd November 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

In reply to Danny, both girls and boys wore white shirts and blue shorts or skirts for PE when I was at primary schools. I never saw anyone have to do it in just underpants, although boys and girls changed in the same classroom.

At secondary we wore navy blue gym knickers and white shirts for indoor PE. The knickers were more uniform that the ones in the photo.

Comments by Danny on 2nd November 2019  

I thought that only boys schools had or mandated nude swimming.
Were there any girls schools that had the same nude rule for swimming?

We did not have a pool at the schools I went to but I had friends who went to private(fee paying) and boarding school where they had to be nude for swimming lessons, some under the supervision of female teachers.
I don't think there are any schools today which mandate nude swimming lessons, or making them swim in underwear as some describe here.
The funny thing is that parents never objected to their boys being made to swim nude at school and was considered as normal.

Comments by Danny on 2nd November 2019  

Looking at the main picture with the girls in an assortment of different PE shorts it seems that back in the 50s they did not have the brand type shorts that kids wear today.
I went to a boys only secondary school in late 60s and we wore white vests and white shorts for PE which were simple cotton held with an elastic band.
I don't know or remember what the girls secondary wore for PE but probably similar as us boys.
In primary we wore the same white vest and white shorts both for girls and boys.
And yes, we all changed together in class.

Some describe that they did PE in primary in just underpants, both girls and boys together. Any here did the same? Did you feel any embarrassment?

Comments by Alison on 25th October 2019  

In primary school, if we forgot our kit we had to do the lesson in underwear and bare feet. This happened to me on a couple of occasions and it was pretty embarrassing as it was a co-ed class and there was no changing room, so we had to undress in the classroom before walking to the gym in view of the rest of the school in just vest and pants. My senior school was girls only. The rules here were strict too and you could rarely get out of PE by forgetting your kit. However, it was not so embarrassing having to do PE in your knickers here, as the regular kit consisted of T-shirt, gym knickers and bare feet, so you did not feel too under-dressed and the rest of the class were only girls. I once forgot my kit for outdoor athletics, however, and had to take part in my underpants, a borrowed T-shirt and bare feet (the running track was grass). Unfortunately, the playing fields were on the opposite side of a public road and so I had to walk there in public in little more than my knickers! Several people outside school saw me and I spent the afternoon sporting a very red face!

Comments by Fiona on 22nd October 2019  

Mr Dando - surely it's only common sense to shower after potentially muddy games such as rugby and football. And it doesn't say BOYS MUST shower, but STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED to shower. Also, it is probably the Academy management rather than the British State that is making the recommendation.

Comments by Mr Dando on 18th October 2019  

The time has come to ban compulsory showers for boys in UK schools where there is no such requirement for girls. An example is shown below.

www.ashmoleacademy.org

oys' PE Kit
Ashmole Rugby Shirt [Navy with sky blue side panels]
Ashmole Royal Blue Polo Shirt
Ashmole Navy Games Shorts
Navy Football Socks
Ashmole PE Navy Zipped Fleece Top [Year 10/11 only]
Training shoes [MUST NOT have black soles]
Football boots
Shin pads

Towel [STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO SHOWER AFTER FOOTBALL AND RUGBY]

Plain navy blue tracksuit bottoms (optional)

Girls' PE Kit
Ashmole Sky Blue Polo Shirt
Ashmole Navy Sweatshirt
Ashmole Navy Games Shorts or Skorts
Navy Football socks
Ashmole PE Navy Zipped Fleece Top [Year 10/11 only]
Training shoes [MUST NOT have black soles]
Shin pads (for Hockey as well as Football)
Plain navy blue tracksuit bottoms (optional)

It is time to end the degrading treatment of males by the British state. Do you agree, Christine.

Comments by Christine on 13th October 2019  

We had problems regarding showering. For a start the girls' changing rooms were designed for a class of girls not the 2 we would get - so they were cramped. The showers were archaic as in shower heads protruding from the wall in a reasonably wide "corridor".
We took the view that we gave the girls the hygiene information, encouraged them to bring at least a flannel and towel so they could wash. I did not feel it was my role whatever to watch the girls going into the shower. Add to that that lesson times were adjusted (not in favour of a practical subject) and showering was really impractical.

As HT SMT would not take the step of banning mobile phones in schools I would also consider it a problem with kids using them in the changing rooms.

We did have an unofficial "brief" in that we would be vigilant re possible non-accidental injury signs on kids, also signs of possible eating disorder so yes it could be said we "watched" kids but in all my years teaching PE I never received an accusation re any possible 'looking at watching kids changing

Comments by Amanda on 13th October 2019  

Seems as though the girl wearing black pumps forgot her white PE pumps so had to wear her indoor school pumps. If this was me in my old school I'd have been told to go and participate in bare feet.

Comments by Sandra on 29th September 2019  

Looks so reminiscent of my old PE kit except that we went barefoot for all PE inside or outside.

As for the recent comments on swimming we wore a navy regulation swimming costume and if you forgot it then it was expected you'd swim in knickers or nude. I chose nude as did the other girls.

Comments by Andrea on 19th September 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

Diona,
I think the original post said that they had to swim in underwear IF they forgot their swimsuits, so they would unlikely to have brought spare underwear in those circumstances.

Comments by Katherine on 19th September 2019  

Donna, bringing spare underwear wasn’t really the answer. We only had to swim on our knickers if we forgot our costumes.

Comments by Diona on 18th September 2019  

Katherine, Pierette - surely the answer to the "no knickers for the rest of the day" problem is obvious: take spare knickers/vest/bra (delete as appropriate) to put on after swimming. Or am I missing something obvious?

Comments by Donna Pitt on 12th September 2019  

Dartington Hall school was one of a handful of experimental, co-educational schools founded before the Second World War. Boys who might climb up a drainpipe at the school itself in order to catch a glimpse of a girl having a bath, would show not the slightest interest in the same girl’s nude body (often goose-pimply from the cold) as she made her way into the chilly water.
I can’t now recall what I felt about swimming naked in the first year or two of senior school, when I was 13 and 14; I probably went along with it quite happily. But I do know that, as I grew older, I found it increasingly embarrassing. I didn’t dare admit this to anyone — and hardly to myself — or a very long time. Nude bathing was such an integral part of the school’s enlightened ethos that to question it would have been regarded as deeply regressive and bourgeois — the equivalent of objecting to, say, gender equality today. But truth will out, and we older girls finally, and guiltily, started confessing to each other that we felt extremely self-conscious about being seen without our clothes on. We had no wish to expose our wobbly bits to all and sundry. If only we could wear bathing-suits, we all agreed, we would go swimming much more often. I suspect that most of the boys felt much the same way, though I never talked about this uncomfortable subject to any male.
There was, however, one boy who swam against the tide, so to speak, and always wore swimming trunks. Naturally, we all thought there was something fundamentally wrong either with his body, or with his mind, or both. Looking back on it now, it strikes me that he showed exceptional moral courage, or sang froid — certainly more than we older girls did. None of us had the nerve to bring up the topic at Moot meetings, let alone to propose a motion, which we had drafted, to make bathing-suits acceptable. So we continued to bathe naked, but more and more self-consciously, and less and less frequently. (After Curry’s departure as headmaster in 1957, bathing-suits became optional.)

Comments by Andrea on 3rd September 2019  andreatwo@hotmail.co.uk 

Katherine & Pierrette,
I assume that your swimming lessons were girls only and the Instructors were female?

Comments by Katherine on 30th August 2019  

Hi Pierette, thanks for adding your experience of swimming. It sounds similar to my own; we were never told "you'll swim naked" but were told that we would swim in our underwear at most. In the first couple of years we were told "you'll still swim, and you can keep your pants on if you want" and I think quite a few girls did so, before we all realised it meant spending the rest of the day with nothing under our skirts! At that point, we weren't allowed to wear our vests or bras in the pool. Once we were in third year, the options became pants and vest/bra, or swimming naked, and by this point I think we all chose to go through the indignity of swimming naked rather than having nothing under our white blouses or our skirts!

This also reminds me of a time in primary school, when me and a friend had forgotton our swimming kits, so had been made to go in the pool in our pants. They'd been left to dry and we'd put our uniform back on. That afternoon, we had PE in the hall - for which we all normally undressed down to our pants! Not one to let a simple matter like that stop her pupils from using the PE apparatus, our teacher simply ordered us to undress as usual, and then do the lesson wearing absolutely nothing!

Comments by Pierrette on 30th August 2019  

Some people say they took part in swimming lessons in the nude because they forgot their swimsuit. It is easy to doubt that they are being truthful. However, when I was at school the rules were very simple. If you were well enough to attend school, and didn't have a letter from home or your doctor, then you were well enough to take part in swimming. Not having swimwear did NOT get you out of the lesson.

The school was not allowed (as far as I know) to make people go naked so the policy was: "no swimsuit, do the lesson in your underwear". But if you did that, you had no underwear for the rest of the day's lessons and not having a bra under a white blouse all day was more embarrassing than just doing the swimming lesson naked, or at least, topless (just in your knickers).

So if the rules said you had to do swimming in your underwear, but you as an individual opted to do it naked instead, that was ok as far as the school was concerned, and that is the choice that many did make at my school.

Comments by Ade C on 26th July 2019  

Hi. My secondary modern was a smart blue and yellow reversible rugby jersey blue shorts and yellow socks, but used for every out door sport. Indoor white shoes and tee, bare feet unless it was basketball, then plimsolls allowed.

Comments by Katie G on 11th July 2019  

My namesake Katie mentioned in March about wearing gym knickers in 2017, and it was commented that this was a surprise. I left school a little earlier, in 2011, but in year 8 and above we wore gym knickers for indoor PE, which was nearly always gymnastics and dance. In year 7 we had to do PE in just our normal underwear pants!

Comments by James on 5th June 2019  

Rob,it was embarrassing being referred to as'the boy who still wears shorts'and even more derogatory comments were made.
As I grew older I did have discussions with my mother about wearing short trousers,but she didn't like her authority undermined and I didn't want to risk any reprisals from further discussions.At fourteen and older I didn't possess any long trousers,so to argue with my mother about wearing short trousers would have been futile.
As I grew older I found that shorts could be worn for leisure without the terrible stigma about wearing them.

Comments by Rob on 4th June 2019  

James, I can understand how embarrassing it must have been for you being known by everyone in the school as 'the boy who still wears shorts'. Did you try talking to your parents about it, however unsuccessfully? My mum used to tell me to wear shorts at home in the summer because she said it was healthier and didn't want me going in the garden and wearing the knees out of long trousers. She was probably right and it didn't put me off wearing shorts. Did your parents attitude deter you wearing them now for leisure?

Comments by James on 3rd June 2019  

Rob,It was my parents decision to keep me in short trousers until I left school,although I would have preferred to wear long trousers, particularly for school where most boys wore long trousers.I was the only boy in my class wearing short trousers,so I felt embarrassed to be wearing shorts.
I wanted to feel grown up an mature and wearing short trousers inhibit this process.



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